"Hey, thanks for that post on Facebook the other day. It made me decide to become a vegetarian." - "What?" - "Yeah, I just suddenly felt I had to quit eating meat thanks to your post." - "Um. Really?" - "No. But I admire your tenacity in posting this stuff."
This was the approximate course of an office conversation I had this morning, and it left me pretty much speechless. I mumbled something along the lines of 'to each their own', and that was it. But in the aftermath, it felt like a slap in my face.
I can see why the average conservative cattle rancher would ridicule anyone who turns down meat and dairy and has the nerve to be vocal about it. I can also understand to a certain extent that people who are in a relationship with a hardcore carnivore don't want to overcomplicate things and just go along with the societal default option. I even have some level of understanding for those who say "If I were to live according to my values, I should be a vegan, but call me a hypocrite: I'm just addicted to [insert your choice of animal product]." Or for those who think that the Bible tells them that God created animals for human consumption - they're lost souls anyway. But I am completely clueless how people who publicly proclaim that they care for social responsibility and sustainability can shut down their hearts and their minds and even attempt to disparage or ridicule those who try to spread the word. Newsflash: Consuming animals is neither socially responsible (world hunger is aggravated because of the inefficient practice of feeding crops to livestock instead of people and in the process losing 90% of the nutritional value) nor sustainable (the livestock sector contributes 18% of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions - which is more than the transportation sector). But what's more, animals are conscious, sentient beings. Just like humans. What we would condemn if it happened to humans anywhere in the world, or even to our beloved pets, we seem to blindly accept when it comes to farm animals: Captivity, exploitation, torture, and murder. How can you sign the petitions against bullfights or whaling, or advocate for the rescue cats or dogs at your local shelter, but shield your eyes from the atrocities done to pigs, cows, and chickens day after day after day - with no reason but to satisfy your taste buds?
Yes, compared with humans, most animals have diminished cognitive capacities. But does that give us the right to do all these things to them - and with no reason except for a fleeting sensation on our palate? What if someone was farming, exploiting and killing babies or mentally disabled people (who often have lower cognitive capacities than animals) because they could make money with their flesh? The United Nations would give marching orders in no time; or Neo would be contracted by Morpheus to save the human race.
Here's the red pill for you: Eating animals (or their secretions) is unhealthy, unsustainable, unsocial, cruel, and entirely unnecessary unless you live in a region where there's no edible plants around most of the year, like, say, Greenland. But for most of the developed world, the only reasons to eat animals are convenience (in our societies, meals which contain animal products are the default option) and taste. Do these really weigh more than social and environmental responsibility and compassion towards our fellow creatures?
Whether you think that consuming animals is unethical is, ultimately, a question of personal values. For me, the answer is simple: Yes.
PS: And no, plants don't have feelings. And even if they had: Your meat consumes 9x as much plants to feed you the same amount of nutrients as I get by consuming the plants directly. Which, basically, turns your argument into one of mine.
PS2: And no, the lion eating the gazelle isn't on the same level. Lions do it for survival and have the chance of not eating at all due to the fairness of the fight. You, however, don't.
PS3: And no, everybody becoming a hunter and only eating game wouldn't work either. It may have been possible with a few million people populating the planet and no firearms or other sophisticated traps and instruments, as was the case in the stone ages when our forefathers and -mothers were hunters and gatherers. But today? If you want to feed 7 billion people with wild animals at the rate you consume them today, all wildlife on Earth would be extinct within weeks.
PS4: And no, the fact that the vegan diet lacks vitamin B12 and that we need to take it in pill form is not the proof that humans can't thrive on a plant-based diet. B12 is a vitamin produced by bacteria which can normally be found on the outside of plants. But since most plants these days get sanitized before they hit your plate (or even your shopping cart), we can't take enough of it in anymore. But your cows get B12 supplements too these days, exactly for the same reason. So, there's no need to be smug about that.
PS5: And no, our bodies aren't made to eat animals. The human body doesn't need meat, nor does it need cow's milk or goat's milk or any milk except for human milk in its first year or two. When it comes to protein, we shouldn't eat more than 50-70g per day - a cup of broccoli already has 6g, a cup of (dry) quinoa or oats 24g, and a cup of tofu 40g. The calcium myth was already debunked years ago (as described here.) And that the fats in nuts, avocados, and most plant oils are healthier than the fats in lard, whipped cream, or spare ribs should be common knowledge by now. The fact of the matter is that our bodies are able to digest an omnivorous diet to a certain extent, but that we can certainly live without animal products, and if we pay a little attention to balance the nutrients, thrive better on it than if eating animals. Yes, in the hunter-gatherer age, people might have eaten even more animals than we do today, particularly in winter when there were hardly any plants to gather. But at that time, the average life expectancy was 30-40 years. Maintaining your body without contracting various cancers, cardiovascular disease, and type II diabetes, just to name a few ailments strongly correlated with animal consumption, beyond that age works way better on a plant-based diet than an omnivorous one. Forget the Paleo Diet. It's a bunch of crap. If you want literature on this, shout.
PS6: And no, we don't feel deprived or weak. We feel pretty great about ourselves, because we're the pioneers of a movement that becomes larger day by day and will, ultimately, be the way the entire human race will live; because we know we treat our bodies well; because we learn hundreds of new ways of preparing delicious and nutritious meals made from plants; and because it feels good to know we're not supporting a ruthless and violent industry, but instead practice non-violence in all areas of our lives. The only thing which would make us even happier would be if you would join us. Which is why we're constantly trying to convince you. Of course, you can ignore us, you can ridicule us, but you can't stop us. If you prefer the blue pill, the only thing you can do is ban us from your newsfeed. But that won't make reality go away.
This was the approximate course of an office conversation I had this morning, and it left me pretty much speechless. I mumbled something along the lines of 'to each their own', and that was it. But in the aftermath, it felt like a slap in my face.
I can see why the average conservative cattle rancher would ridicule anyone who turns down meat and dairy and has the nerve to be vocal about it. I can also understand to a certain extent that people who are in a relationship with a hardcore carnivore don't want to overcomplicate things and just go along with the societal default option. I even have some level of understanding for those who say "If I were to live according to my values, I should be a vegan, but call me a hypocrite: I'm just addicted to [insert your choice of animal product]." Or for those who think that the Bible tells them that God created animals for human consumption - they're lost souls anyway. But I am completely clueless how people who publicly proclaim that they care for social responsibility and sustainability can shut down their hearts and their minds and even attempt to disparage or ridicule those who try to spread the word. Newsflash: Consuming animals is neither socially responsible (world hunger is aggravated because of the inefficient practice of feeding crops to livestock instead of people and in the process losing 90% of the nutritional value) nor sustainable (the livestock sector contributes 18% of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions - which is more than the transportation sector). But what's more, animals are conscious, sentient beings. Just like humans. What we would condemn if it happened to humans anywhere in the world, or even to our beloved pets, we seem to blindly accept when it comes to farm animals: Captivity, exploitation, torture, and murder. How can you sign the petitions against bullfights or whaling, or advocate for the rescue cats or dogs at your local shelter, but shield your eyes from the atrocities done to pigs, cows, and chickens day after day after day - with no reason but to satisfy your taste buds?
Yes, compared with humans, most animals have diminished cognitive capacities. But does that give us the right to do all these things to them - and with no reason except for a fleeting sensation on our palate? What if someone was farming, exploiting and killing babies or mentally disabled people (who often have lower cognitive capacities than animals) because they could make money with their flesh? The United Nations would give marching orders in no time; or Neo would be contracted by Morpheus to save the human race.
Here's the red pill for you: Eating animals (or their secretions) is unhealthy, unsustainable, unsocial, cruel, and entirely unnecessary unless you live in a region where there's no edible plants around most of the year, like, say, Greenland. But for most of the developed world, the only reasons to eat animals are convenience (in our societies, meals which contain animal products are the default option) and taste. Do these really weigh more than social and environmental responsibility and compassion towards our fellow creatures?
Whether you think that consuming animals is unethical is, ultimately, a question of personal values. For me, the answer is simple: Yes.
PS: And no, plants don't have feelings. And even if they had: Your meat consumes 9x as much plants to feed you the same amount of nutrients as I get by consuming the plants directly. Which, basically, turns your argument into one of mine.
PS2: And no, the lion eating the gazelle isn't on the same level. Lions do it for survival and have the chance of not eating at all due to the fairness of the fight. You, however, don't.
PS3: And no, everybody becoming a hunter and only eating game wouldn't work either. It may have been possible with a few million people populating the planet and no firearms or other sophisticated traps and instruments, as was the case in the stone ages when our forefathers and -mothers were hunters and gatherers. But today? If you want to feed 7 billion people with wild animals at the rate you consume them today, all wildlife on Earth would be extinct within weeks.
PS4: And no, the fact that the vegan diet lacks vitamin B12 and that we need to take it in pill form is not the proof that humans can't thrive on a plant-based diet. B12 is a vitamin produced by bacteria which can normally be found on the outside of plants. But since most plants these days get sanitized before they hit your plate (or even your shopping cart), we can't take enough of it in anymore. But your cows get B12 supplements too these days, exactly for the same reason. So, there's no need to be smug about that.
PS5: And no, our bodies aren't made to eat animals. The human body doesn't need meat, nor does it need cow's milk or goat's milk or any milk except for human milk in its first year or two. When it comes to protein, we shouldn't eat more than 50-70g per day - a cup of broccoli already has 6g, a cup of (dry) quinoa or oats 24g, and a cup of tofu 40g. The calcium myth was already debunked years ago (as described here.) And that the fats in nuts, avocados, and most plant oils are healthier than the fats in lard, whipped cream, or spare ribs should be common knowledge by now. The fact of the matter is that our bodies are able to digest an omnivorous diet to a certain extent, but that we can certainly live without animal products, and if we pay a little attention to balance the nutrients, thrive better on it than if eating animals. Yes, in the hunter-gatherer age, people might have eaten even more animals than we do today, particularly in winter when there were hardly any plants to gather. But at that time, the average life expectancy was 30-40 years. Maintaining your body without contracting various cancers, cardiovascular disease, and type II diabetes, just to name a few ailments strongly correlated with animal consumption, beyond that age works way better on a plant-based diet than an omnivorous one. Forget the Paleo Diet. It's a bunch of crap. If you want literature on this, shout.
PS6: And no, we don't feel deprived or weak. We feel pretty great about ourselves, because we're the pioneers of a movement that becomes larger day by day and will, ultimately, be the way the entire human race will live; because we know we treat our bodies well; because we learn hundreds of new ways of preparing delicious and nutritious meals made from plants; and because it feels good to know we're not supporting a ruthless and violent industry, but instead practice non-violence in all areas of our lives. The only thing which would make us even happier would be if you would join us. Which is why we're constantly trying to convince you. Of course, you can ignore us, you can ridicule us, but you can't stop us. If you prefer the blue pill, the only thing you can do is ban us from your newsfeed. But that won't make reality go away.

So many just decide to not look at the truth. I wonder how many people made my posts disappear from their facebook feed, only because they don't want to be bothered. I feel the same way you do. There are days, when people's rejection of the thought of not consuming, using, killing experimenting on animals makes me cry. There are days people come to me with questions and show interest. People have told me that I made a big difference in their life. I know that person will never forget who I am, because she is so genuinely happy that she became vegan now and she loves me for simply asking her:"I know you are an animal lover and I heard you say to someone that you are a vegetarian, but not as extreme as vegan. It's not extreme at all, and if you love animals, you would not want to allow or contribute to the torture that goes on in the dairy and poultry industry." I know that my biggest regret, ( yes, I know so many vegans say this) is that I waited so long. The truth is, I was ignorant. I am surprised and somewhat upset that vegans around me didn't speak about their veganism. I make an effort to talk about it, because it is so important. So, keep doing it.
ReplyDeleteHuman beings in general do not like being lectured to, especially when they are interacting on a social level, such as Facebook. You come off as a bit moralistic, which I think may have something to do with your more recent conversion?
ReplyDeleteRegardless, everyone has truths they find important to them. It is doubtful you listen to everyone else's truths and change your life accordingly, so don't be surprised that no everyone will follow your path.
Yeah, and animals in general do not like to be tortured and killed. I wonder if you would have called the Nazi resistance 'moralistic' too.
ReplyDeleteYou don't come off as moralistic, you come off as passionate. WTF? I can see how someone who wants to continue to act without consciousness or compassion sees your posts as a lecture. Stop being so mean, Gabi; what is WRONG with you, asking people to be conscious of where their food comes from and to maybe make kinder, more responsible choices. HOW DARE YOU ask people to consider not torturing an animal just so that they can have a full pound of beef on their plate at dinner time? Your Facebook page is your page, and you can say whatever the hell you want on it, and if someone doesn't like it, they don't have to read it. They can go hang out with the other socially irresponsible, uncaring assh***s and pat themselves on the back for being so awesome in their arrogance. They don't need to be d*cks about it like that jerk in your office, either. When I still ate meat, I was understanding of other people's reasons for not eating it. I eat dairy and eggs, but I understand that others don't and why. I don't condemn them for talking about it. I understand the meat-eaters' nastiness, because I hated being "preached to," by those who felt they needed to get in my face while I was trying to enjoy my burger, too. Growing up as I did, I felt cows were put here for us to eat. And maybe they were. But they were NOT put here for us to farm & slaughter wholesale. They were not put here to be treated inhumanely, without a thought to their suffering or respect for their sacrifice. God made us STEWARDS of the environment and the animals. We are supposed to care for them lovingly, with respect, and honor their sacrifice, not treat them in the barbaric, inhumane way we so arrogantly think we have the right to because we think they are beneath us. And I think an awful lot of people are going to be surprised when they stand before God and find out just what they've done. I dread that experience myself. I'm ashamed of how long it took me to go vegetarian. I have stood in slaughterhouses and seen first-hand how animals are killed. I would give anything not to have that knowledge and to have seen what I have personally seen. And then to know how long it took me to stop eating meat, to finally understand what I was contributing to, is horrible. Guilt is unpleasant, and most people will do everything they can to avoid it. Even if it means being an arrogant ass and saying crappy things to someone who is supposed to be a friend.
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